﻿{"id":774,"date":"2010-07-26T11:19:29","date_gmt":"2010-07-26T09:19:29","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/laregledujeu.org\/arrabal\/?p=774"},"modified":"2010-07-27T10:23:09","modified_gmt":"2010-07-27T08:23:09","slug":"%e2%80%a6entretien-passionnant-de-fernando-arrabal-%cf%86%ce%b5%cf%81%ce%bd%ce%ac%ce%bd%cf%84%ce%bf-%ce%b1%cf%81%ce%b1%ce%bc%cf%80%ce%ac%ce%bb-avec-maria-adamopoulou-journal-ta-nea-grece","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/laregledujeu.org\/arrabal\/2010\/07\/26\/774\/%e2%80%a6entretien-passionnant-de-fernando-arrabal-%cf%86%ce%b5%cf%81%ce%bd%ce%ac%ce%bd%cf%84%ce%bf-%ce%b1%cf%81%ce%b1%ce%bc%cf%80%ce%ac%ce%bb-avec-maria-adamopoulou-journal-ta-nea-grece\/","title":{"rendered":"\u00ab\u00a0\u2026 Entretien passionnant de Fernando Arrabal (\u03a6\u03b5\u03c1\u03bd\u03ac\u03bd\u03c4\u03bf \u0391\u03c1\u03b1\u03bc\u03c0\u03ac\u03bb) avec Maria Adamopoulou&#8230;\u00a0\u00bb: journal TA NEA (Gr\u00e8ce)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"openWindow('default.asp?pid=96&amp;ct=4&amp;artid=4584949&amp;nid=0&amp;rid=','send','left='+%20(screen.width-482)\/2%20+',%20top='+%20(screen.height-359)\/2%20+',%20status=no,%20scrollbars=yes,%20resizable=no,%20width=900,%20height=700');%20;\"><\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.tanea.gr\/default.asp?pid=97&amp;ct=4&amp;nid=0&amp;artid=4584949\"><\/a><em><a href=\"void(0);\"><\/a><a href=\"void(0);\"><\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<div id=\"new-royalslider-1\" class=\"royalSlider new-royalslider-1 rsUni rs-default-template\" style=\"width:100%;height:400px;;\" data-rs-options='{&quot;template&quot;:&quot;default&quot;,&quot;image_generation&quot;:{&quot;imageWidth&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;imageHeight&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;thumbImageWidth&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;thumbImageHeight&quot;:&quot;&quot;},&quot;thumbs&quot;:{&quot;thumbWidth&quot;:96,&quot;thumbHeight&quot;:72},&quot;fullscreen&quot;:{&quot;enabled&quot;:&quot;true&quot;},&quot;visibleNearby&quot;:{&quot;enabled&quot;:&quot;true&quot;,&quot;breakpoint&quot;:575,&quot;breakpointCenterArea&quot;:0.4,&quot;navigateByCenterClick&quot;:&quot;true&quot;},&quot;video&quot;:{&quot;autoHideBlocks&quot;:&quot;true&quot;},&quot;width&quot;:&quot;100%&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:&quot;400px&quot;,&quot;autoScaleSlider&quot;:&quot;true&quot;,&quot;autoScaleSliderWidth&quot;:960,&quot;autoScaleSliderHeight&quot;:360,&quot;controlNavigation&quot;:&quot;none&quot;,&quot;arrowsNav&quot;:&quot;false&quot;,&quot;arrowsNavAutoHide&quot;:&quot;false&quot;,&quot;globalCaption&quot;:&quot;true&quot;,&quot;loop&quot;:&quot;true&quot;,&quot;keyboardNavEnabled&quot;:&quot;true&quot;,&quot;fadeinLoadedSlide&quot;:&quot;false&quot;}'>\n<div class=\"rsContent\">\n  <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"rsImg\" src=\"https:\/\/laregledujeu.org\/arrabal\/files\/2010\/07\/P1020583.jpg\" data-rsBigImg=\"https:\/\/laregledujeu.org\/arrabal\/files\/2010\/07\/P1020583.jpg\" alt=\"P1020583\"\/>\n  \n  \n  \n<\/div>\n<div class=\"rsContent\">\n  <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"rsImg\" src=\"https:\/\/laregledujeu.org\/arrabal\/files\/2010\/07\/P1020309.jpg\" data-rsBigImg=\"https:\/\/laregledujeu.org\/arrabal\/files\/2010\/07\/P1020309.jpg\" alt=\"P1020309\"\/>\n  \n  \n  \n<\/div>\n<div class=\"rsContent\">\n  <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"rsImg\" src=\"https:\/\/laregledujeu.org\/arrabal\/files\/2010\/07\/P1000633.jpg\" data-rsBigImg=\"https:\/\/laregledujeu.org\/arrabal\/files\/2010\/07\/P1000633.jpg\" alt=\"P1000633\"\/>\n  \n  \n  \n<\/div>\n<div class=\"rsContent\">\n  <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"rsImg\" src=\"https:\/\/laregledujeu.org\/arrabal\/files\/2010\/07\/P1000145llllll.jpg\" data-rsBigImg=\"https:\/\/laregledujeu.org\/arrabal\/files\/2010\/07\/P1000145llllll.jpg\" alt=\"P1000145llllll\"\/>\n  \n  \n  \n<\/div>\n\n<\/div>\n\n<p><a href=\"mailto:adamaria@dolnet.gr\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.tanea.gr\/default.asp?pid=2&amp;ct=4&amp;artid=4584949\">www.tanea.gr<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00ab\u2026entretien passionnant de F. Arrabal avec Maria Adamopoulou (TA NEA&#8230; Le journal de plus grand tirage en Gr\u00e8ce)&#8230;\u00bb<br \/>\n*L\u2019original en grec et la version espagnole \u00e0 la fin de ce post. La traduction fran\u00e7aise d\u2019abord\u2026<\/p>\n<p>\u0391\u03a1\u03a7\u0399\u039a\u0397 \u03a3\u0395\u039b\u0399\u0394\u0391\u00a0 \u0395\u03a0\u0399\u039a\u0391\u0399\u03a1\u039f\u03a4\u0397\u03a4\u0391\u00a0\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tanea.gr\/politismos.htm\">\u03a0\u039f\u039b\u0399\u03a4\u0399\u03a3\u039c\u039f\u03a3<\/a><\/p>\n<h1>\u03a6\u03b5\u03c1\u03bd\u03ac\u03bd\u03c4\u03bf \u0391\u03c1\u03b1\u03bc\u03c0\u03ac\u03bb<\/h1>\n<h2>\u00ab\u0398\u03ad\u03bb\u03c9 \u03bd\u03b1 \u03b3\u03af\u03bd\u03c9 \u03bb\u03b1\u03ca\u03ba\u03cc\u03c2 \u03ac\u03b3\u03b9\u03bf\u03c2\u00bb<\/h2>\n<h4>\u03a4\u03b7\u03c2 \u039c\u03b1\u03af\u03c1\u03b7\u03c2 \u0391\u03b4\u03b1\u03bc\u03bf\u03c0\u03bf\u03cd\u03bb\u03bf\u03c5<\/h4>\n<h6>\u0394\u0397\u039c\u039f\u03a3\u0399\u0395\u03a5\u0398\u0397\u039a\u0395: \u03a3\u03ac\u03b2\u03b2\u03b1\u03c4\u03bf 17 \u0399\u03bf\u03c5\u03bb\u03af\u03bf\u03c5 2010<\/h6>\n<p><strong> <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0TA NEA.- <\/strong>Quel est le plus grave probl\u00e8me de notre temps?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Le foss\u00e9 entre intelligence et instinct se creuse-t&rsquo;il de plus en plus? M\u00eame quand l\u2019\u00e9l\u00e9phant caquette \u00e0 cause de la grippe aviaire?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- <\/strong>Crise \u00e9conomique globale. La Gr\u00e8ce et l\u2019Espagne menac\u00e9es par la banqueroute. Qui est coupable? Quelle est la solution?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Chaque solution suscite-t-elle des probl\u00e8mes? N\u2019ai-je que des r\u00e9ponses individuelles \u00e0 des probl\u00e8mes collectifs? Et m\u00eame pas de dessins pornos en braille pour les aveugles?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou TA NEA.- <\/strong>L\u2019art peut-il aider?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Nous permet-il de survivre \u00e0 la connaissance de la v\u00e9rit\u00e9 (horrible)? On me dit qu\u2019aujourd\u2019hui il y a un schizophr\u00e8ne qui s\u2019entretient avec Dieu gr\u00e2ce \u00e0 mon th\u00e9\u00e2tre.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0TA NEA.- <\/strong>Vous avez beaucoup d\u2019activit\u00e9s, vous \u00eates \u00e9crivain, metteur en sc\u00e8ne, po\u00e8te, artiste\u2026 Si vous n\u2019en deviez choisir qu\u2019une seule, laquelle serait-ce? Pourquoi?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- J\u2019essaie d\u2019\u00eatre un po\u00e8te.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- <\/strong>Comment pouvez-vous travailler \u00e0 tant de choses si diverses et les dominer toutes?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Je ne peux pas l\u2019expliquer. Je ne le savais m\u00eame pas.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou TA NEA.- <\/strong>Pourquoi croyez-vous que vos pi\u00e8ces ont un succ\u00e8s mondial?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Je ne le savais pas non plus&#8230; On me joue peut-\u00eatre ici et l\u00e0\u2026 Parce que (inconsciemment) je touche parfois un p\u00e9pin de la pomme de nos origines : le fruit d\u00e9fendu.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- <\/strong>Pourquoi tant de premi\u00e8res de vos pi\u00e8ces par de jeunes compagnies?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Le pourcentage de jeunes compagnies (ou de \u00abth\u00e9\u00e2tres confirm\u00e9s\u00a0\u00bb)\u00a0 pour qui mes pi\u00e8ces comptent (ou qui se moquent comme d\u2019une guigne de ce que j\u2019ai bien pu \u00e9crire), au point de les repr\u00e9senter, est myst\u00e9rieusement semblable aujourd\u2019hui \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9quateur et aux antipodes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- <\/strong>Quelles sont vos pi\u00e8ces les plus jou\u00e9es?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Celles qui sont choisies (ou laiss\u00e9es de c\u00f4t\u00e9) sont toujours les m\u00eames.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- <\/strong>Pourquoi plaisez-vous?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Je ne crois pas plaire. Si je suis tant jou\u00e9 et visit\u00e9 sur Internet\u2026 Je ne sais pas pourquoi\u2026 Je ne crois pas que de mon vivant on puisse consid\u00e9rer mon \u0153uvre avec s\u00e9r\u00e9nit\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- <\/strong>Y a-t&rsquo;il une recette pour avoir du succ\u00e8s?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- S\u2019il y en avait, il faudrait en faire part \u00e0 mes \u00e9diteurs.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- <\/strong>Souvent vos pi\u00e8ces sont des provocations. Adorez-vous cela? Pour quelle raison le faites-vous?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Je ne provoque pas et je ne d\u00e9sire pas davantage le faire. (Pas plus que l\u2019\u00e9rudit qui a prononc\u00e9 une conf\u00e9rence sur l\u2019\u00e2me avec diapositives).<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- <\/strong>Permettez-moi d\u2019insister. Avez-vous r\u00e9invent\u00e9 la provocation comme l\u2019a \u00e9crit The Village Voice?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- La provocation est impr\u00e9visible et d\u00e9joue tout calcul. C\u2019est un fruit inutile et cr\u00e9tin du hasard. Elle attire l\u2019attention par son c\u00f4t\u00e9 infantile, centrip\u00e8te et al\u00e9atoire.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0TA NEA.- <\/strong>Mais alors, pourquoi vous accuse-t&rsquo;on d\u2019\u00eatre un provocateur?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- On a entendu des choses plus bizarres. Et on en entendra. Les cannibales diab\u00e9tiques ne mangent pas les fabricants de sucre.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou TA NEA.- <\/strong>Pensez-vous que la politique vous affecte?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Je d\u00e9sire surtout imiter mon p\u00e8re condamn\u00e9 \u00e0 mort pour ne pas avoir accept\u00e9 l\u2019opportunisme. Il est rest\u00e9 fid\u00e8le \u00e0 la r\u00e9publique quand la guerre civile a \u00e9clat\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- <\/strong>Avez-vous fait quelque chose de mal? Quelle est la pire chose?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Il n\u2019y a pas assez de place dans votre journal pour les d\u00e9tailler toutes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- <\/strong>Qu\u2019est-ce qui vous a pouss\u00e9 \u00e0 \u00e9crire?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Il m\u2019a pris fantaisie lorsque j\u2019\u00e9tais petit de gagner le concours de surdou\u00e9s en 1941. On aurait d\u00fb me congeler.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- <\/strong>DE quoi vous repentez-vous?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- De tant de choses. De ne pas m\u2019\u00eatre consacr\u00e9 aux math\u00e9matiques quand le jury de mon prix me l\u2019avait recommand\u00e9 en 1941.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- <\/strong>Et y a-t&rsquo;il quelque chose de bien qui vous rende vraiment heureux?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Je r\u00eave d\u2019\u00eatre un jour un saint la\u00efc, panique.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- <\/strong>Si vous n\u2019aviez pas tant d\u2019activit\u00e9s et de professions, aimeriez-vous \u00eatre un homme de t\u00e9l\u00e9vision?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Pourquoi pas?\u2026 Et un Martien \u00e0 Disneyland.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- <\/strong>Un tableau ou un vers que vous appliqueriez \u00e0 la crise?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Le D\u00e9luge de Michel Ange. \u00abJ\u2019ai aim\u00e9 Verlaine, un porc\u00bb: Rimbaud.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- <\/strong>Savez-vous ce que signifie \u00abFestival litt\u00e9raire international\u00bb?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Malheureusement, non. Je donnerais n\u2019importe quoi pour que vous ne m\u2019ayez pas pos\u00e9 cette question.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- <\/strong>Etes-vous en avance sur votre \u00e9poque?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Gr\u00e2ce \u00e0 son omniscience le dieu Pan a mis les commencements avant les fins.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- <\/strong>Si Cervant\u00e8s avait fait partie du Mouvement Panique\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- \u2026 Il aurait termin\u00e9 sa pi\u00e8ce \u00abLa confusa\u00bb.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- <\/strong>Que pensez-vous du Panique?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Ceux qui nous font l\u2019honneur de s\u2019int\u00e9resser \u00e0 cet art de vivre et \u00e0 cette philosophie (et science) ne confondent pas l\u2019avenir du Panique avec l\u2019histoire du Panique.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- <\/strong>Jodorowsky, Topor et vous, lorsque vous avez fond\u00e9 le Mouvement Panique, avez-vous imagin\u00e9 son avenir?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Que les rhinoc\u00e9ros chantent, c\u2019est d\u00e9j\u00e0 en soi assez g\u00eanant, mais aussi qu\u2019ils volent, c\u2019est intol\u00e9rable.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.-<\/strong>Une \u00e9poque o\u00f9 vous auriez aim\u00e9 vivre?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Je peux avancer une th\u00e9orie sur la part la plus maudite des Terriens. Je fais, comme les autres, partie de la mal\u00e9diction.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- <\/strong>Qu\u2019est-ce que le bonheur?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- S\u2019il existait, y aurait-il plus belle qualit\u00e9 pour l\u2019atteindre que la g\u00e9n\u00e9rosit\u00e9 des walkyries ou de Borges?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.-<\/strong> Avez-vous \u00e9t\u00e9 surpris par l\u2019accueil international de votre livre \u00abLettre \u00e0 Franco\u00bb (1972) , \u00e9videmment interdit du vivant du dictateur comme toute votre \u0153uvre?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Peut-\u00eatre parce que ce message \u00e0 Franco a \u00e9t\u00e9 le seul\u2026 Quand la vermine tombe malade elle ne s\u2019alite pas.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- <\/strong>Quels sont vos rapports avec Pynchon, Louise Bourgeois, Kundera ou Houellebecq?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Avec moins de rapports Archim\u00e8de aurait soulev\u00e9 la terre.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- <\/strong>Qu\u2019est-ce qui pourrait justifier le mensonge?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Rien. C\u2019est un compromis inutile avec la col\u00e8re suicidaire que l\u2019on ressent. Le cyclope aveugle diff\u00e8re peu du borgne.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.-<\/strong> Croyez-vous r\u00e9ellement que l\u2019\u00eatre humain va vers la fin in\u00e9luctable, la fin des id\u00e9es et le triomphe de la violence?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.-Vivons-nous des temps de belle myopie? Tuer par plaisir semble pis que de le faire par id\u00e9al.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- <\/strong>Comment aimeriez-vous mourir?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- En dormant et en pleine pollution nocturne.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- <\/strong>De quoi, vous inspirez-vous pour \u00e9crire?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Qu\u2019un chameau passe par le chas d\u2019une aiguille est moins inhabituel que de trouver le chamelier qui a tent\u00e9 de le faire.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- <\/strong>Croyez-vous que l\u2019interdiction de votre \u0153uvre par le r\u00e9gime franquiste soit, vu avec recul, une sorte d\u2019honneur?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Ce sont les chimpanz\u00e9s en uniforme qui prononcent les meilleurs discours.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- <\/strong>Mel Gussow (NYTimes) a \u00e9crit que vous \u00eates le dernier survivant des trois avatars de ladite modernit\u00e9 :panique, surr\u00e9alisme et Coll\u00e8ge de \u2019Pataphysique. Qu\u2019en pensez-vous?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Dans le groupe surr\u00e9aliste je n\u2019ai \u00e9t\u00e9 ( pr\u00e9sent quotidiennement) que trois ans . Pas m\u00eame mille ans, ni mille jours&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- <\/strong>Politiquement qu\u2019\u00e9tait alors ce groupe?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Comme il avait toujours \u00e9t\u00e9 : l\u2019aile culturelle du parti communiste\/trotskiste.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- <\/strong>Artistiquement?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- C\u2019\u00e9tait le cercle de r\u00e9volt\u00e9s le plus \u00e9bouriffant et g\u00e9nial de cette \u00e9poque.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- <\/strong>Et vous trois?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Nous autres, on nous a consid\u00e9r\u00e9s comme les plus \u00e9bouriffants des \u00e9bouriffants. Par pur autisme.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- <\/strong>On pr\u00e9tend que vous \u00eates un adepte de la confusion.<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Tout au contraire: je suis presque un fanatique de l\u2019exactitude, du jeu d\u2019\u00e9checs, de la morsure dans le derri\u00e8re et de la science.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- <\/strong>L\u2019homme panique\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- \u2026 Le p\u00e9nis lui-m\u00eame contemple avec peine l\u2019\u00e9ternel triomphe de la confusion. Aujourd\u2019hui comme au temps de Socrate.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- <\/strong>Le Coll\u00e8ge de Pataphysique qui d\u00e9finit l\u2019omnipr\u00e9sent univers des exceptions, pourquoi vous a-t-il nomm\u00e9 \u00abtranscendant satrape\u00bb?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Sans aucun m\u00e9rite. Et en toute injustice, on parle moins des milliers de membres qui aujourd\u2019hui constituent le Coll\u00e8ge de Pataphysique, que des quatre transcendants satrapes encore en vie (Umberto Eco, Dario Fo, Beno\u00eft Mandelbrot et moi). Malheureusement Baudrillard et Edoardo Sanguineti se sont occult\u00e9s il y a peu (sont morts, \u00abvulgaris\u00bb). Et plusieurs ann\u00e9es auparavant les irrempla\u00e7ables Marcel Duchamp, Max Ernst, Ionesco, Man Ray\u2026<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0TA NEA.- <\/strong>Quelle est votre voie?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Les hirondelles parisiennes et les pigeonneaux ath\u00e9niens ignorent la manie d\u00e9mente d\u2019aller toujours en ligne droite.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0TA NEA.- <\/strong>Croyez-vous que Cervant\u00e8s se soit senti fier, de son au-del\u00e0, lorsque vous avez gifl\u00e9 un animateur de la t\u00e9l\u00e9vision fran\u00e7aise (Edouard Baer) parce qu\u2019il avait manqu\u00e9 de respect envers l\u2019auteur?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Cervant\u00e8s avait trop d\u2019humour pour ne pas appr\u00e9cier ma r\u00e9action.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0TA NEA.- <\/strong>Etes-vous r\u00e9ellement anarchiste comme on le dit?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Je me souviens de la r\u00e9ponse politique de Sancho Panza: \u00abJe ne fais ni ne d\u00e9fais les rois mais je me sers moi-m\u00eame qui suis mon seigneur et ma\u00eetre\u00bb.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- <\/strong>Pourquoi , quand le maire de Venise, le 6 juin, vous a pr\u00e9sent\u00e9 \u00e0 l\u2019Ateneo Veneto (lors de la Biennale de Venise), comme \u00abl\u2019auteur dramatique vivant le plus c\u00e9l\u00e8bre du globe\u00bb, tout le monde a-t-il \u00e9t\u00e9 enchant\u00e9?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Parce que personne ne conna\u00eet le nom ne serait-ce que d\u2019un seul auteur dramatique. Ils auraient \u00e9t\u00e9 encore plus contents si l\u2019on m\u2019avait pr\u00e9sent\u00e9 comme \u00able dernier tigre du Bengale\u00bb.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou TA NEA.-<\/strong> Avez-vous lu la liste du New York Times des cent personnes qui ont le plus d\u2019influence dans le monde.<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Parmi elles, pas un seul dramaturge ou po\u00e8te. Tant mieux pour nous. Nous pouvons vivre la Renaissance dans les catacombes. Personne ne tente de \u00abnous acheter\u00bb. Nous n\u2019avons rien \u00e0 \u00abvendre\u00bb.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- <\/strong>Vous \u00eates si sp\u00e9cial\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- C\u2019est pourquoi il est surprenant que ma \u00abcirconstance\u00bb ou situation personnelle (familiale seulement dans mon cas) puisse \u00e9galement l\u2019\u00eatre pour un jeune acteur de Tol\u00e8de (Espagne) ou de Tol\u00e8de (USA).<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou TA NEA.- <\/strong>Et quant \u00e0 l\u2019obstination des inquisiteurs?&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Est-ce qu\u2019 ils ne supportent pas ma \u00abcirconstance\u00bb?&#8230; Mon p\u00e8re premier condamn\u00e9 \u00e0 mort de la guerre civile?\u2026 Ma lettre au g\u00e9n\u00e9ral?\u2026 Ma pr\u00e9sence dans l\u2019avant-garde? Etc, etc?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- <\/strong>Pourquoi \u00e0 la mort du g\u00e9n\u00e9ral Franco toute votre \u0153uvre est-elle frapp\u00e9e d\u2019interdiction?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- C\u2019est un titre de gloire que je ne m\u00e9rite pas et de tr\u00e8s loin. Si deux porcs-\u00e9pics se croisent celui qui poss\u00e8de le plus de piquants a la priorit\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0TA NEA.- <\/strong>Vos pi\u00e8ces, a \u00e9crit Esslin, effraient les th\u00e9\u00e2tres internationaux les plus attard\u00e9s. Est-ce vrai?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Comme nous aimerions contempler la lune \u00e0 plat ventre.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou TA NEA.- <\/strong>Les th\u00e9\u00e2tres solennels jouent vos pi\u00e8ces\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.-\u2026 \u00e0 la Com\u00e9die Fran\u00e7aise et autres th\u00e9\u00e2tres nationaux &#8211; europ\u00e9ens (comme el Teatro Real de Madrid) on peut jouer mon th\u00e9\u00e2tre actuellement de la fa\u00e7on la plus surprenante et m\u00eame os\u00e9e. Ou ne pas le jouer sans m\u00eame que les masses sortent dans la rue pour manifester leur m\u00e9contentement.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- <\/strong>Pourquoi en son temps votre \u00abL\u2019Architecte et l&#8217;empereur\u00a0d\u2018Assyrie\u00bb a-t-il \u00e9t\u00e9 repr\u00e9sent\u00e9 au Royal National Theatre de Londres par l\u2018inoubliable Sir Laurence Olivier?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Parce que syst\u00e9matiquement la roue de la fortune ne donne pas la r\u00e9ussite aux meilleurs mais aux plus connus.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- <\/strong>Votre th\u00e9\u00e2tre a \u00e9t\u00e9 publi\u00e9, jusqu\u2019en 1977, en japonais et en grec avant de l\u2019\u00eatre dans votre langue maternelle\u2026..<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Par ordre des autorit\u00e9s. La gale intelligente pr\u00e9f\u00e8re les taureaux rouges.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- <\/strong>Pourquoi vous \u00eates-vous inspir\u00e9 du mythe de Faust dans votre op\u00e9ra Faustbal et avez-vous choisi une femme comme protagoniste?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Parce que depuis mon enfance je me dis face \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9nigme f\u00e9conde :\u00ab\u00a0D\u00e9boutonne ton uniforme. Il y en a un autre dessous. Merde!\u00bb<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- <\/strong>Que pensez-vous du temps?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Gr\u00e2ce \u00e0 un cadran solaire (et \u00e0 une montre) chaque instant indiquerait l\u2019heure qui nous plairait le plus. Le monde est rotatoire. Nous voyagerons bient\u00f4t dans le Temps. Ce n\u2019est qu\u2019une question de budget (Voir K.G\u00f6del ou L\u00e9vy-Leblond)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.-<\/strong><strong> <\/strong>Comment voyez-vous l\u2019avenir, de Paris o\u00f9 vous vivez?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Sauf les devins, tout le monde peut pr\u00e9voir l\u2019avenir.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.-<\/strong><strong> <\/strong>La confuse complexit\u00e9 actuelle?\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Fait que les probl\u00e8mes changent de nature pour que les solutions paraissent rationnelles.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- <\/strong>Et que pensez-vous du sexe?<\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Je ne sais qu\u2019une chose c\u2019est que je ne sais presque rien\u2026 de presque tout.<\/p>\n<p>*************************<\/p>\n<p>\u03a3\u03c5\u03b3\u03b3\u03c1\u03b1\u03c6\u03ad\u03b1\u03c2, \u03c0\u03bf\u03b9\u03b7\u03c4\u03ae\u03c2, \u03b6\u03c9\u03b3\u03c1\u03ac\u03c6\u03bf\u03c2, 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\u03bc\u03ad\u03bb\u03bb\u03bf\u03bd.<\/p>\n<p>*************************<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou TA NEA.-\u00bf Cual es el problema m\u00e1s grande de\u00a0 nuestro tiempo?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- \u00bfCada vez es m\u00e1s profundo el foso entre inteligencia e instinto?\u00a0 \u00bfIncluso cuando el elefante cacarea con gripe aviar?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0TA NEA.- Crisis econ\u00f3mica global. Grecia y Espana estan en el peligro de la bancarrota. Quien tiene la culpa\u00a0? Cual es la solucion?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- \u00bfCada soluci\u00f3n engendra problemas?\u00a0 \u00a0\u00bfSolo tengo \u00a0respuestas individuales a \u00a0problemas\u00a0 colectivos?\u00a0 \u00bfY ni siquiera dibujos pornos en braille para los ciegos?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- \u00bf El arte puede ayudar?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- \u00bfNos permite sobrevivir \u00a0al\u00a0conocer \u00a0 la verdad\u00a0 (horrorosa)? \u00a0\u00a0Me dicen que hay un esquizofr\u00e9nico\u00a0 que habla con\u00a0 Dios gracias a mi teatro.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- Usted tiene muchas propriedades, tal\u00a0como\u00a0escritor, director, poeta, artista\u2026 \u00bfSi tuviera usted\u00a0\u00a0que elegir solamente\u00a0una entre de esas, cu\u00e1l ser\u00eda \u00e9se\u00a0? \u00bfPor qu\u00e9?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Intento \u00a0ser \u00a0poeta.\u00a0<strong> <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.-\u00bfC\u00f3mo puede usted trabajar en tantas muchas cosas diversas y\u00a0 tambien ser consistente en todas?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.-No me lo explico. Ni siquiera lo sab\u00eda.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- \u00bfPor qu\u00e9 crea usted que sus obras son mundiales popular\u00a0?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Tampoco lo sab\u00eda.\u00a0 Quiz\u00e1s\u00a0 se me represente aqu\u00ed o all\u00e1\u2026 porque (inconscientemente) a veces toco la pepita de nuestra manzana\u00a0 primordial : la prohibida.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- \u00bf Por qu\u00e9 le estrenan \u00a0tanto j\u00f3venes compa\u00f1\u00edas? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- El porcentaje de j\u00f3venes compa\u00f1\u00edas (o de \u2018teatros consagrados\u2019) a los que les importan mis obras (o a las que les importa un r\u00e1bano todo lo que haya podido escribir) hasta el punto de representarlas es misteriosamente semejante hoy\u00a0 en el ecuador\u00a0 y en las ant\u00edpodas.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.-\u00bfCu\u00e1les son sus obras mas representadas? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Las\u00a0 elegidas (y las desechadas) son\u00a0 las mismas siempre.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- \u00bfPor qu\u00e9 gusta?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- No creo que guste. Si tanto me representan o me visitan en la red\u00a0 \u00a0\u2026 no s\u00e9 por qu\u00e9\u2026 \u00a0No creo que en vida pueda ver contemplada mi obra con serenidad.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- \u00bfHay\u00a0 algun receta para el \u00e9xito?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.-Si \u00a0existiera habr\u00eda que comunic\u00e1rsela a mis editores.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- \u00bf Hay muchas veces que\u00a0usted provoca con sus obras. \u00bf Le encanta usted\u00a0hacerlo?\u00bf Cual es la razon o el motivo\u00a0por hacerlo?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Ni \u00a0provoco ni deseo hacerlo. [Ni tan siquiera el erudito que dio la conferencia sobre el ama con diapositivas].<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- Perm\u00edtame insistir \u00bfHa reinventado la provocaci\u00f3n como escribi\u00f3\u00a0 The Village Voice?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.-La provocaci\u00f3n es imprevisible e\u00a0 incalculable. Es un fruto in\u00fatil y cretino del azar. Llama la atenci\u00f3n por\u00a0 infantil, centr\u00edpeta y aleatoria.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- Pero entonces \u00bfPor qu\u00e9\u00a0 le acusan \u00a0de provocador?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.-Cosas m\u00e1s peregrinas\u00a0 se oyeron. Y se oir\u00e1n. Los can\u00edbales diab\u00e9ticos no comen fabricantes de azucarillos.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- \u00bfPiensa usted para estar implicado en la pol\u00edtica?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Anhelo \u00a0imitar a mi padre; condenado a muerte por no aceptar el oportunismo. \u00a0Permaneci\u00f3 fiel a la republica\u00a0 cuando empez\u00f3 la guerra civil espa\u00f1ola.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- \u00bfHay una cosa mala\u00a0que usted ha hecho\u00a0? Cual es el peor?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- No hay bastante espacio en su peri\u00f3dico para detallarlas todas.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- \u00bfQu\u00e9 le llev\u00f3 a escribir?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.-Se me ocurri\u00f3 de ni\u00f1o al ganar el concurso de superdotados en 1941. Hubieran debido congelarme.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.-\u00bfDe que se arrepiente? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- De tantas cosas. De no haber abrazado las matem\u00e1ticas cuando me lo recomend\u00f3 el tribunal de mi\u00a0 premio en 1941.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0TA NEA.-Y\u00a0algun cosa buena\u00a0con\u00a0cual usted sienta tan feliz? Cual es el\u00a0 peor?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Sue\u00f1o con llegar a ser un d\u00eda un santo laico, p\u00e1nico.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou TA NEA.- \u00bfSi usted no tenia tantas qualidades y professiones, queria usted ser una persona de television?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.-\u00bfPor qu\u00e9 no?\u2026 y\u00a0 \u00a0un marciano en Disneylandia.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- \u00bfUn pintura\u00a0o un verse que usted dedica a esta crisis\u00a0?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- El Diluvio de Miguel Angel.\u00a0 \u201cAm\u00e9 a Verlaine, un cerdo\u201d : Rimbaud.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- \u00bfSabe lo que significa \u2018festival literario internacional\u2019?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.-Desgraciadamente, no. Dar\u00eda cualquier cosa porque no me \u00a0hubiera hecho esta pregunta.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.-\u00bfSe ha adelantado a su tiempo?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.-Gracias a su omnisciencia el Dios Pan puso los principios antes de los finales.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0TA NEA.-<\/strong> <strong>Si \u00a0Cervantes hubiera entrado en el Movimiento P\u00e1nico\u2026 <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.-\u2026 hubiera terminado su obra \u201cLa confusa\u201d.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.-\u00a0\u00bfQu\u00e9 opina del P\u00e1nico? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Los que nos hacen el honor de interesarse por este arte de vivir y esta filosof\u00eda \u00a0(y ciencia) no confunden el futuro del P\u00e1nico\u00a0 con la historia del P\u00e1nico.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.-<\/strong> <strong>Jodorowsky, Topor y usted \u00bfcuando fundaron el Movimiento P\u00e1nico imaginaron su porvenir?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.-Que los rinocerontes canten, es de por s\u00ed bastante molesto, pero lo insoportable es que vuelen.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- Un periodo que le hubiera gustado\u00a0 vivir. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Puedo \u00a0teorizar sobre la parte m\u00e1s maldita de los terr\u00e1queos.\u00a0 Formo, con los dem\u00e1s, \u00a0parte de la maldici\u00f3n.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou TA NEA.- \u00bfQu\u00e9 es \u00a0la felicidad?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Si existiera \u00bfhabr\u00eda mejor calidad \u00a0para alcanzarla que la generosidad de las valkirias o de Borges?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0TA NEA.- \u00bfLe sorprendi\u00f3 la acogida internacional de su libro \u201cCarta a Franco\u201d (1972), evidentemente prohibida en vida del dictador como toda su obra?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Quiz\u00e1s porque fue el \u00fanico\u2026 las sabandijas\u00a0 cuando enferman no se meten en la cama.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou TA NEA.- \u00bfQu\u00e9 relaci\u00f3n tiene con Pynchon, Louise Bourgeois, Kundera o Houellebecq?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Con una relaci\u00f3n menor \u00a0Arqu\u00edmedes hubiera levantado la tierra.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- \u00bfQu\u00e9 podr\u00eda justificar la mentira? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Nada.\u00a0 Es una componenda\u00a0 in\u00fatil\u00a0 con la ira suicida de uno mismo. El c\u00edclope ciego se distingue mal del tuerto.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- \u00bfCree realmente que el ser humano va al inevitable fin, al fin de las ideas y el triunfo de la violencia?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal. \u00bfVivimos tiempos de hermosa miop\u00eda? Matar por placer parece\u00a0 peor\u00a0 que hacerlo por ideal.<strong> <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- \u00bfC\u00f3mo le gustar\u00eda morir? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.-Durmiendo en plena poluci\u00f3n nocturna.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- \u00bfEn qu\u00e9 se inspira para escribir?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.-Que un camello pase por el ojo de una aguja es menos infrecuente que encontrar al camellero que trat\u00f3 de hacerlo.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou TA NEA.-\u00bfCree que el hecho de que el\u00a0 r\u00e9gimen de Franco prohibiese su obra es, mirado desde la distancia, como un honor? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Los chimpanc\u00e9s con uniforme son quienes mejor pronuncian discursos.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- Mel Gussow (NYTimes) escribi\u00f3 que usted es el \u00faltimo superviviente \u00a0de los tres avatares \u00a0de la llamada modernidad: \u00a0p\u00e1nico, surrealismo y el Colegio de Patafisica \u00bfQu\u00e9\u00a0 opina?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- En el grupo surrealista tan s\u00f3lo estuve (con presencia diaria) tres a\u00f1os. Ni siquiera ni mil a\u00f1os, ni mil d\u00edas<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- \u00bfPol\u00edticamente que era entonces este grupo? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.-Como lo fue siempre:\u00a0\u00a0 el ala cultural del partido comunista\/trotskista.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- \u00bfArt\u00edsticamente? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.-Lo formaba el corro de\u00a0 rebeldes m\u00e1s espeluznante y genial de aquel\u00a0 momento.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- \u00bfY ustedes tres?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.-A nosotros tres nos consideraron los espeluznantes de los espeluznantes. Por puro autismo.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- Se pretende que es un adepto de la confusi\u00f3n.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.-Todo lo contrario: soy casi fan\u00e1tico de la exactitud, del ajedrez,\u00a0 del mordisco amoroso en el trasero y de la ciencia.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- El hombre p\u00e1nico\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- \u2026incluso el pene observa con pena\u00a0\u00a0 el eterno triunfo de la confusi\u00f3n. Hoy como en tiempos de S\u00f3crates.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- El Colegio de Patafisica que \u00a0define\u00a0 al omnipresente universo de las excepciones. \u00bfpor qu\u00e9 le nombr\u00f3 \u00a0\u201ctrascendente s\u00e1trapa\u201d? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Inmerecidamente. E injustamente, se habla menos de los miles de miembros que hoy forman el Colegio de Patafisica, que de los cinco trascendentes s\u00e1trapas a\u00fan en vida (Umberto Eco, \u00a0Dario Fo, Edoardo Sanguineti, Benoit Mandelbrot\u00a0\u00a0 y yo). Desgraciadamente acaba de ocultarse (fallecer, \u201cvulgaris\u201d) Baudrillard. Y a\u00f1os antes los irremplazables Marcel Duchamp, Max Ernest, Ionesco, Man Ray\u2026 &gt;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0TA NEA.- \u00bfCu\u00e1l es su via?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.-Las golondrinas parisienses y los palomos atenienses \u00a0ignoran la man\u00eda demente de ir siempre en l\u00ednea recta.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0TA NEA.- \u00bfCree que Cervantes se enorgulleci\u00f3 desde el m\u00e1s all\u00e1 cuando usted abofete\u00f3 a un presentador \u00a0de la TV \u00a0francesa (Emmanuel Baer) por tratar irrespetuosamente el nombre del autor?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.-Cervantes\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0ten\u00eda demasiado humor\u00a0 \u00a0como para no apreciar mi reacci\u00f3n.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- \u00bfEs realmente anarquista como se dice?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.-Recuerdo\u00a0 la r\u00e9plica pol\u00edtica de Sancho Panza: \u00ab\u00a0Ni quito ni pongo rey sino que me\u00a0sirvo a m\u00ed que soy mi se\u00f1or\u00a0\u00bb.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- \u00bfPor qu\u00e9 cuando el alcalde de Venecia, el 6 de junio, le\u00a0 present\u00f3 en el Ateneo Veneto (durante la Bienal de Venecia) como \u00abel dramaturgo vivo m\u00e1s c\u00e9lebre del globo\u00bb todos quedaron encantados?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.-Porque nadie conoce el nombre de un solo dramaturgo. Se habr\u00edan quedado aun m\u00e1s \u00a0satisfechos\u00a0 si me hubiera presentado como : \u00abEl \u00faltimo \u00a0tigre de Bengala\u00bb.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- \u00bfLey\u00f3 la lista del \u00a0<em>The New York Times<\/em> de las 100 personas m\u00e1s influyentes del mundo?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Entre ellos, no hay un solo dramaturgo \u00a0ni un poeta. Mejor para nosotros. Podemos vivir el renacimiento desde las catacumbas. Nadie trata de\u00a0 \u201ccomprarnos\u201d. Nada tenemos que \u201cvender\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou TA NEA.- Es usted tan especial\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.-Sorprende por ello que mi \u2018circunstancia\u2019\u00a0 [familiar\u00a0 s\u00f3lo\u00a0 para m\u00ed]\u00a0 pueda serlo \u00a0\u00a0igualmente\u00a0 para un joven actor de\u00a0 Toledo (Espa\u00f1a) \u00a0o de Toledo (Usa).<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- \u00bfY a la obstinaci\u00f3n de los inquisidores?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- \u00a0\u00bfNo soportan\u00a0 mi circunstancia\u2026?: \u00a0\u00bf\u2026mi padre primer condenado a muerte de la guerra civil? \u00bf\u2026 mi carta al general? \u00bf\u2026 mi presencia en la \u201cvanguardia\u201d? \u2026\u00a0 \u00bfetc. etc.? .<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- \u00bfPor qu\u00e9 a la muerte del general Franco tiene usted toda su obra prohibida?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Es un titulo de gloria que no merezco ni remotamente. Si dos puerco-espines se cruzan tiene prioridad el de m\u00e1s espinas.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- A los teatros decimon\u00f3nicos internacionales,\u00a0 ha escrito Esslin, \u00a0les asusta su teatro \u00bfes cierto? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- C\u00f3mo nos gustar\u00eda \u00a0ver\u00a0 la luna bocabajo.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- Los teatros solemnes le representan\u2026 <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.-\u2026 en la \u2018Com\u00e9die Fran\u00e7aise\u2019 y otros teatros nacionales europeos \u00a0(como el Teatro Real de Madrid) se puede\u00a0 representar mi teatro actualmente\u00a0 de la forma m\u00e1s sorprendente e incluso arriesgada. O no representarse sin que ni siquiera las masas salgan a manifestar su repulsa por ello.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- \u00bfPor qu\u00e9 \u00a0en su d\u00eda su \u201cEmperador de Asiria\u201d se hizo en el Royal Nacional Theatre de Londres con el\u00a0\u00a0 inolvidable Sir Laurence Olivier?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.-Porque sistem\u00e1ticamente\u00a0 rueda fortuna\u00a0 no da el triunfo a\u00a0 los mejores, sino a los m\u00e1s conocidos.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou TA NEA.- Su teatro se public\u00f3, hasta 1977, antes en japon\u00e9s o griego que en su lengua materna\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Por orden de las autoridades. La sarna inteligente prefiere los toros colorados.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- Dice usted que no es emigrante sino desterrado.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Puesto que m\u00e1s que de ra\u00edces dispongo de piernas. Soy de Destierrolandia.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou TA NEA.- \u00bfPor qu\u00e9 se inspir\u00f3 en el mito de Fausto en su \u00f3pera Faustbal y hace protagonista a una mujer?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.-Porque desde ni\u00f1o me digo frente al enigma fecundo: \u201cDesabrocha tu uniforme. Hay otro debajo \u00a1carajo!\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- \u00bfQue piensa del tiempo? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Gracias a un reloj de sol (y de pulsera) cada instante se\u00f1alar\u00eda la hora que m\u00e1s nos apeteciera.\u00a0 El mundo es rotatorio. Pronto viajaremos en el Tiempo. Es solo una cuesti\u00f3n de presupuestos (K.G\u00f6del \u00f3 Levy-Leblond).<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou\u00a0 TA NEA.- \u00bfC\u00f3mo ve el futuro, desde Par\u00eds donde vive?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Menos los adivinos, todos pueden prever el porvenir.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou TA NEA.- \u00bfLa confusa complejidad actual\u2026? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.- Hace que los problemas cambien de naturaleza\u00a0 para que las \u2018soluciones\u2019 parezcan racionales.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Adamopoulou TA NEA.- \u00bfY de sexo? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fernando Arrabal.-S\u00f3lo s\u00e9 que no s\u00e9 nada (como de casi todo).<\/p>\n<p>_________________<br \/>\n<a title=\"blocked::http:\/\/newperformancestheatre.blogspot.com\/\" href=\"http:\/\/newperformancestheatre.blogspot.com\/\">http:newperformancestheatre.blogspot.com\/ <\/a><\/p>\n<p><a title=\"blocked::http:\/\/newperformancestheatre.blogspot.com\/\" href=\"http:\/\/newperformancestheatre.blogspot.com\/\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a title=\"blocked::http:\/\/\/ blocked::http:\/\/newperformancestheatre.blogspot.com\/\" href=\"http:\/\/\/\">http:\/\/<\/a><a title=\"blocked::http:\/\/newperformancestheatre.blogspot.com\/\" href=\"http:\/\/newperformancestheatre.blogspot.com\/\"> en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Fernando_Arrabal<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a title=\"blocked::http:\/\/newperformancestheatre.blogspot.com\/\" href=\"http:\/\/newperformancestheatre.blogspot.com\/\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a title=\"blocked::http:\/\/www.arrabal.org\/ blocked::http:\/\/newperformancestheatre.blogspot.com\/\" href=\"http:\/\/www.arrabal.org\/\">http:\/\/www.arrabal.org\/<\/a><a title=\"blocked::http:\/\/newperformancestheatre.blogspot.com\/\" href=\"http:\/\/newperformancestheatre.blogspot.com\/\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a title=\"blocked::http:\/\/newperformancestheatre.blogspot.com\/\" href=\"http:\/\/newperformancestheatre.blogspot.com\/\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a title=\"blocked::https:\/\/laregledujeu.org\/arrabal\/ blocked::http:\/\/newperformancestheatre.blogspot.com\/\" href=\"https:\/\/laregledujeu.org\/arrabal\/\">https:\/\/laregledujeu.org\/arrabal\/<\/a><a title=\"blocked::http:\/\/newperformancestheatre.blogspot.com\/\" href=\"http:\/\/newperformancestheatre.blogspot.com\/\"> <\/a><\/p>\n<p><a title=\"blocked::http:\/\/newperformancestheatre.blogspot.com\/\" href=\"http:\/\/newperformancestheatre.blogspot.com\/\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><a title=\"blocked::http:\/\/newperformancestheatre.blogspot.com\/\" href=\"http:\/\/newperformancestheatre.blogspot.com\/\"><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Un entretien passionnant de F. 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